Comments on: Credit Where Credit is Due http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due Interface & Visual Design Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:29:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=1894 By: Eric S. Smith http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-1176 Eric S. Smith Sun, 31 Jan 2010 18:59:47 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-1176 The <cite>Jurassic Park</cite> example was apparently actually an SGI filesystem browser called <a href="http://www.siliconbunny.com/fsn-the-irix-3d-file-system-tool-from-jurassic-park/" rel="nofollow">FSN</a>. I second the call for a look at old-school, text-based interfaces. There's a pretty clunky one in Cronenberg's <cite><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQWWlb_NCpI" rel="nofollow">Scanners</a></cite>, where a lot of the "design" is in the wording, a mixture of mainframe-esque bafflegab like START BATCH STREAM and audience-friendly phrases like SELF DESTRUCT. The Jurassic Park example was apparently actually an SGI filesystem browser called FSN.

I second the call for a look at old-school, text-based interfaces. There’s a pretty clunky one in Cronenberg’s Scanners, where a lot of the “design” is in the wording, a mixture of mainframe-esque bafflegab like START BATCH STREAM and audience-friendly phrases like SELF DESTRUCT.

]]> By: The Man Behind The Shiny Curtain http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-1079 The Man Behind The Shiny Curtain Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:46:28 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-1079 What a great idea for a website! The people that actually design these screens almost never get any kudos. It's usually a larger company that sub contracts out to a smaller company or a freelancer. I've been doing screen graphics/playback/FUI (whatever you want to call it) for about 10 years now and even though I've designed screens for some of the biggest movies of the last couple years I'll never see my name in any of the credits (not that I care if I do). This is a unique corner of the film/television industry that I'm proud to be part of. I'm really looking forward to the new site. A site to put faces to the designs that have inspired me over the years. PS - The Island still has some of the best "FUI" ever! What a great idea for a website!

The people that actually design these screens almost never get any kudos. It’s usually a larger company that sub contracts out to a smaller company or a freelancer. I’ve been doing screen graphics/playback/FUI (whatever you want to call it) for about 10 years now and even though I’ve designed screens for some of the biggest movies of the last couple years I’ll never see my name in any of the credits (not that I care if I do).

This is a unique corner of the film/television industry that I’m proud to be part of. I’m really looking forward to the new site. A site to put faces to the designs that have inspired me over the years.

PS – The Island still has some of the best “FUI” ever!

]]> By: chino http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-1014 chino Fri, 18 Dec 2009 04:09:12 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-1014 just caught this on my colleague Andrew Hearst's blog, Panopticist (http://www.panopticist.com/) the Mag+ prototype magazine UI: http://vimeo.com/8217311 just caught this on my colleague Andrew Hearst’s blog, Panopticist (http://www.panopticist.com/)

the Mag+ prototype magazine UI: http://vimeo.com/8217311

]]> By: Keith Barry http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-972 Keith Barry Sat, 12 Dec 2009 05:27:24 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-972 We bumped into some fans of what they call "Movie OS" (pron: "oss") and they were revved up to find that we do a lot of this for MOW production in Vancouver. Lots of storm radar and satellite imagery, tracking devices, web searches and e-mail, e-mail, e-mail. We'd be very happy to hear about ways to help with your project and to share our own (small) library of (low-budget) Movie OS. We bumped into some fans of what they call “Movie OS” (pron: “oss”) and they were revved up to find that we do a lot of this for MOW production in Vancouver. Lots of storm radar and satellite imagery, tracking devices, web searches and e-mail, e-mail, e-mail. We’d be very happy to hear about ways to help with your project and to share our own (small) library of (low-budget) Movie OS.

]]> By: Coleran http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-809 Coleran Tue, 08 Dec 2009 20:09:08 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-809 A good question and personally there are several reason for it. They are not ‘official’ in any design sense, but part of my thinking. The corner bevel is a handy little device. Without it, it is just a bar of color. The problem you have on-screen, is that subleties are lost. The camera rarely lingers and does not go in that close. You have to imply that something is something or does something by other means. In user interface work this is called affordance. You can use the same techniques in the screens to quickly and visually say this is or does something. It is not just a bar, it is a title, a tab, a button. You cannot see the fine edge beveling on the button and you do not want to use too distracting colors as the focus should be elsewhere on screen. The other reason of course is inspiration. I always loved what people like The Designers Republic did for games like Wipeout and have always enjoyed integrating elements like that into the work. A good question and personally there are several reason for it. They are not ‘official’ in any design sense, but part of my thinking.

The corner bevel is a handy little device. Without it, it is just a bar of color. The problem you have on-screen, is that subleties are lost. The camera rarely lingers and does not go in that close. You have to imply that something is something or does something by other means. In user interface work this is called affordance. You can use the same techniques in the screens to quickly and visually say this is or does something. It is not just a bar, it is a title, a tab, a button. You cannot see the fine edge beveling on the button and you do not want to use too distracting colors as the focus should be elsewhere on screen.

The other reason of course is inspiration. I always loved what people like The Designers Republic did for games like Wipeout and have always enjoyed integrating elements like that into the work.

]]> By: Crazy User Interfaces in Movies | IGU.fi http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-806 Crazy User Interfaces in Movies | IGU.fi Tue, 08 Dec 2009 13:18:47 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-806 [...] can find more information here. blog comments powered by Disqus var disqus_url = [...] [...] can find more information here. blog comments powered by Disqus var disqus_url = [...]

]]> By: O'Ryan http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-804 O'Ryan Tue, 08 Dec 2009 05:01:28 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-804 "To this end, I am gearing up a project that I have had in mind for many years. To create a good, curated gallery website that explores and illustrates the art of screen graphics in film and television. The films, the shows, the people and their work." Oh Lord that would be amazing! A few years ago i because seriously interested in this topic but not knowing what to call it googling doesn't turn up much stuff. I saw your name a few times and was hooked on your work and style. then when you started up this new blog i got excited hoping that you would be posting more great stuff. I can't wait for the gallery! if you need any help with the building a site like that, i would totally be interested in assisting in any way. i know it's bad form to offer services in a comment but i'm just so excited and building sites like that is what i happen to do... “To this end, I am gearing up a project that I have had in mind for many years. To create a good, curated gallery website that explores and illustrates the art of screen graphics in film and television. The films, the shows, the people and their work.”

Oh Lord that would be amazing! A few years ago i because seriously interested in this topic but not knowing what to call it googling doesn’t turn up much stuff. I saw your name a few times and was hooked on your work and style. then when you started up this new blog i got excited hoping that you would be posting more great stuff.

I can’t wait for the gallery! if you need any help with the building a site like that, i would totally be interested in assisting in any way. i know it’s bad form to offer services in a comment but i’m just so excited and building sites like that is what i happen to do…

]]> By: John http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-803 John Tue, 08 Dec 2009 03:51:25 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-803 Don't sell your work short -- there's a lot to be said for the crazy user interfaces you see on screen! I design user interfaces for part of my job, and there's a lot of group-think that goes on in a task like that. Buttons and widgets all have standardized forms, and react in pre-specified ways to clicks and button presses and tabbing and whatever. I think it's good to see stuff like this, where someone got to let his imagination go and come up with new ideas. After all, you're working on solving a real problem: displaying information in a short time and in an engaging way. You've got a different audience in mind than most UI designers, sure, but I've seen some great ideas -- and usually a much keener eye for color and layout than many of my colleagues have. As for your request: I think any such exhibit would have to include old-school stuff like the Death Star graphic from Star Wars (y'know, the wireframe one with the dish in the wrong place that many Bothans died to, etc, etc) and definitely the UI from Jurassic Park. (I forget, was that purporting to be UNIX?) It was hard to believe at the time that those would ever seem creaky and outdated! If you're feeling daring, a small section on teletype interfaces like in WarGames might be fun, too. Don’t sell your work short — there’s a lot to be said for the crazy user interfaces you see on screen! I design user interfaces for part of my job, and there’s a lot of group-think that goes on in a task like that. Buttons and widgets all have standardized forms, and react in pre-specified ways to clicks and button presses and tabbing and whatever.

I think it’s good to see stuff like this, where someone got to let his imagination go and come up with new ideas. After all, you’re working on solving a real problem: displaying information in a short time and in an engaging way. You’ve got a different audience in mind than most UI designers, sure, but I’ve seen some great ideas — and usually a much keener eye for color and layout than many of my colleagues have.

As for your request: I think any such exhibit would have to include old-school stuff like the Death Star graphic from Star Wars (y’know, the wireframe one with the dish in the wrong place that many Bothans died to, etc, etc) and definitely the UI from Jurassic Park. (I forget, was that purporting to be UNIX?) It was hard to believe at the time that those would ever seem creaky and outdated! If you’re feeling daring, a small section on teletype interfaces like in WarGames might be fun, too.

]]> By: chino http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-791 chino Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:57:59 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-791 probably alreay on your list, but i'd include // http://www.ooo-ii.com/ // MK12's touch screen from 007 Quantum of Solace looking forward to the new website. probably alreay on your list, but i’d include

// http://www.ooo-ii.com/
// MK12′s touch screen from 007 Quantum of Solace

looking forward to the new website.

]]> By: KevinW http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-776 KevinW Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:42:41 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-776 A gallery website would be great! Good source of inspiration! The only thing I would suggest is the ability to view large images or zoom in so we can appreciate the detail that does into these. -- Kevin A gallery website would be great! Good source of inspiration! The only thing I would suggest is the ability to view large images or zoom in so we can appreciate the detail that does into these.

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Kevin

]]> By: Jimb0 http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-775 Jimb0 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 19:21:26 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-775 I saw your work posted a couple places, Lifehacker and io9.com. I am a huge fan of screen interface design in movies in TV, and it's one of my dream jobs to do just that. Your work is great, keep up the good stuff! I saw your work posted a couple places, Lifehacker and io9.com. I am a huge fan of screen interface design in movies in TV, and it’s one of my dream jobs to do just that. Your work is great, keep up the good stuff!

]]> By: Coleran http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-774 Coleran Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:36:52 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-774 I took no offense at all from the title. Was just concerned that it made it look like I was 'the guy' when it comes to this stuff. That could not be farther from the truth. I took no offense at all from the title. Was just concerned that it made it look like I was ‘the guy’ when it comes to this stuff. That could not be farther from the truth.

]]> By: Coleran http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-773 Coleran Sun, 06 Dec 2009 18:35:39 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-773 If that is the definition then it works for both people. Those who like them can use the true definition based on the acronym. For those who don't, the Phooey definition works perfectly. If that is the definition then it works for both people. Those who like them can use the true definition based on the acronym. For those who don’t, the Phooey definition works perfectly.

]]> By: Theoreti.ca » Blog Archive » Ridiculous User Interfaces In Film, and the Man Who Designs Them http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-771 Theoreti.ca » Blog Archive » Ridiculous User Interfaces In Film, and the Man Who Designs Them Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:14:53 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-771 [...] 3, Mr & Mrs Smith, and Children of Men. There is a screen reel that summarizes his work and he responds here in his blog. Thanks to Stan for [...] [...] 3, Mr & Mrs Smith, and Children of Men. There is a screen reel that summarizes his work and he responds here in his blog. Thanks to Stan for [...]

]]> By: Sebastiaan de With http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-769 Sebastiaan de With Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:55:48 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-769 FUI is a nice term, whether it stands for Fantasy or Fictional. I also got the idea of making some sort of gallery of great screen graphics or FUI a few days back, but I think I'll just cherry pick some images from movies I love and have handy and put them on Realmac's Ember service, in a special collection. I don't have any insight in who created the graphics, and it'd never be as complete as your initiative, so I'd love to help out with your idea if I can. FUI is a nice term, whether it stands for Fantasy or Fictional. I also got the idea of making some sort of gallery of great screen graphics or FUI a few days back, but I think I’ll just cherry pick some images from movies I love and have handy and put them on Realmac’s Ember service, in a special collection.

I don’t have any insight in who created the graphics, and it’d never be as complete as your initiative, so I’d love to help out with your idea if I can.

]]> By: James http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-768 James Sun, 06 Dec 2009 15:00:01 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-768 Gizmodo itself is ridiculous. Don't take them seriously, Mark. Your work is outstanding. Gizmodo itself is ridiculous. Don’t take them seriously, Mark. Your work is outstanding.

]]> By: kaoskongo http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-766 kaoskongo Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:22:01 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-766 Glad to know that you're working on bringing to light your mostly unheard-of line of work. Heck it doesn't even have a generally accepted job description. I do tv motion graphics, and people in that industry struggled awhile to decide upon what term to use - with Motion Designer finally being settled on. I've been a fan of your work ever since I stumbled across your 05 Reel (still got a copy in my videos folder ^_^) and i wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors and certainly look forward to seeing your work in movies :) Glad to know that you’re working on bringing to light your mostly unheard-of line of work. Heck it doesn’t even have a generally accepted job description. I do tv motion graphics, and people in that industry struggled awhile to decide upon what term to use – with Motion Designer finally being settled on.

I’ve been a fan of your work ever since I stumbled across your 05 Reel (still got a copy in my videos folder ^_^) and i wish you the best of luck in your future endeavors and certainly look forward to seeing your work in movies :)

]]> By: Joe http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-765 Joe Sun, 06 Dec 2009 06:18:24 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-765 Awesome work. Minority Report The Matrix Enemy of the State ..will think of more soon. Awesome work.

Minority Report
The Matrix
Enemy of the State

..will think of more soon.

]]> By: uberVU - social comments http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-764 uberVU - social comments Sun, 06 Dec 2009 05:13:00 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-764 <strong>Social comments and analytics for this post...</strong> This post was mentioned on Twitter by Coleran: New blog post: Credit Where Credit is Due. ...and a new undertaking. http://bit.ly/5cxtqG... Social comments and analytics for this post…

This post was mentioned on Twitter by Coleran: New blog post: Credit Where Credit is Due.
…and a new undertaking.

http://bit.ly/5cxtqG...

]]> By: Dorkman http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-763 Dorkman Sun, 06 Dec 2009 04:07:05 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-763 I dunno about "FUI." Do you really want this kind of work to be associated with "an interjection used to express repudiation or disgust"? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phooey However, the idea for the site itself sounds great! I dunno about “FUI.” Do you really want this kind of work to be associated with “an interjection used to express repudiation or disgust”?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/phooey

However, the idea for the site itself sounds great!

]]> By: Josh http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-762 Josh Sun, 06 Dec 2009 02:02:53 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-762 Yes, I'm one of the legion who found you through Twitter and very glad I did. I've always been impressed with the kind of FUI's (see... it's started already) I've seen in films, without really realizing that, duh, of course there is someone designing them. Being an illustrator myself, my lack of realization, in hindsight, is pretty ridiculous. So it was really exciting to stumble upon your work (thanks Twitter!). My interest is really piqued now. I do hope you'll put together some kind of resource for learning more about FUI's (or whatever they wind up being know as). If you do, I'll be a frequent visitor! Thanks Yes, I’m one of the legion who found you through Twitter and very glad I did. I’ve always been impressed with the kind of FUI’s (see… it’s started already) I’ve seen in films, without really realizing that, duh, of course there is someone designing them. Being an illustrator myself, my lack of realization, in hindsight, is pretty ridiculous. So it was really exciting to stumble upon your work (thanks Twitter!). My interest is really piqued now. I do hope you’ll put together some kind of resource for learning more about FUI’s (or whatever they wind up being know as). If you do, I’ll be a frequent visitor! Thanks

]]> By: Tweets that mention Credit Where Credit is Due | Mark Coleran Visual Designer -- Topsy.com http://blog.coleran.com/credit-where-credit-is-due/comment-page-1#comment-761 Tweets that mention Credit Where Credit is Due | Mark Coleran Visual Designer -- Topsy.com Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:40:46 +0000 http://blog.coleran.com/?p=1858#comment-761 [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Mark Coleran, TJ Baurain and Motionworks, Motionworks. Motionworks said: New blog post: Credit Where Credit is Due....and a new undertaking. RT @Coleran http://bit.ly/5cxtqG [...] [...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Mark Coleran, TJ Baurain and Motionworks, Motionworks. Motionworks said: New blog post: Credit Where Credit is Due….and a new undertaking. RT @Coleran http://bit.ly/5cxtqG [...]

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